One way to understand John 3:16

For God so loved the world that He gave His on begotten Son: 

This is not a Statement that is the first stanza of a divine Salvation formula, 

It is also a statement dealing with the world at the time it is communicated.

Therefore it’s primary import is to those hearing it then and their response not to this statement,

but rather what this statement represents i.e. the Messianic Promise.

In like Manner the primary understanding of the Word “World” should be The Roman World,

now don’t worry gentiles you are included in the Roman World just not the Top Messianic focus.

That whosoever believes in him:

Primarily pointed to those who respond to this messianic offer in that time and space context.

To project this as an absolute requirement beyond that Time and Space context

is an abuse of the Incarnational narrative and urgency of the moment. 

Also believes in Him must be seen as a unified work of the Father and the Son and not separate.

Shall not perish:

There is no need at this point to project any Jewish Messianic promises beyond the earthly ones,

promised to the Nation Israel by her prophets. 

Israel’s promises from God have always been conditional upon earthly performance and faithfulness.

There is no reason to conclude at this point that all of a sudden Jesus is introducing a new concept,

that concept being a punishment of unlimited duration in a place called Hell. 

He is however staying true to the conditional nature of God’s covenant with the Nation Israel,

and punishment for disobedience being and earthly matter as well.

but have everlasting life or (age lasting life)

At this point and in order to stay consistent we do not need to make the protestant stretch,

and make this phrase about eternal life in a place called Heaven. 

To remain relevant to the Jewish Messianic prophetic context of this entire phrase,

we need only see the promise of the life of God fully implemented into the life of His people.

Further that as the prophets promised this life of God following through his people would,

change the whole world starting with Israel and without end.






Point of Truth:
True Spirituality is not about fixing your problems or getting absolution for your past mistakes. It’s about learning New connections within and without that transform the life you have, into something New. It’s about knowing the deep truth that your not broken so much as Unused…


a recovering Hell Fire & Brimstone preacher

Life’s Journey

Life's Journey

On your journey many times it’s a Cowardly Lion,

Tin Man & Scarecrow you need,

because they are true friends who also need you.


                                                                                                                                                                                 a recovering Hell Fire & Brimstone Preacher

John 3:14 Death or Resurrection?


So here we are back in the 3rd Chapter of the Johns open letter to believers in Christ and it is recorded that Jesus said the following:   “Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up (exalted),that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”  Now how are we to understand this verse, does it follow that Jesus here is talking about his death on a cross? 

Remember now Jesus is to talking to Nicodemus about the Nation Israel and it’s people, it is clear from many other places in the gospels that the ministry of Jesus was not to the Gentiles.  I am pretty sure at this point in his ministry Jesus is aware that he will be rejected by the leadership as the Messiah of Israel.  Lets be clear here Death on a Cross would not prove to the religious authorities that Jesus was the Messiah of the Jewish Prophets.  Nor would death on a cross prove to the people Jesus Christ was the exalted of God, which is what the phrase “Lifted up” means in the Greek. 

Lets pause here and ask a question, why is it that the church theology & doctrine for thousands of years sees the cross in this statement of Jesus to Nicodemus?  The answer is almost self evident, because the church has built it’s salvation dogma around the cross and the idea of your guilt and the blood sacrifice.  What if however Jesus is looking past the cross which is far more likely and to the Resurrection.  Because lets be honest anybody can die for love as Jesus taught, but raising from the dead three days later and defeating the whole sin/death paradigm is another story altogether.  Remember when Paul is teaching the Corinthians and he says “if the Resurrection from the Dead is a myth then we above all people are most miserable”

Do you see this is not to deny the cross but rather to put it in it’s proper place, there is no power in the cross alone.   The only power in the cross is the resurrection because all men in Adam die.   Jesus was the Last Adam and his power is not demonstrated in death but rather in life, or as Paul taught: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.”  Therefore looking to the future Paul confidently says: All of Israel shall be saved.”

Now is there a partnership also implied in this section of scripture you bet ya, but if you think This Christ is playing second fiddle to the will of man you haven’t read the story.  Do you see we have built many theologies around man’s will, either in the affirmative or the negative giving us all the control, and don’t kid yourself it’s all about control.  This will however is not dead as the Calvinists over think nor is it the trump card the Arminians passionately imagine, it is that which you will give freely to love eventually and I recommend now rather than later, it makes for a better life.

Can I tell you a secret though it’s not about you, or as Paul so eloquently says in the letter to the Philippians and with this I will close.  Now yes I know I haven’t tied everything up in a nice little Theological bow, but who ever told you that was how this mystery was to be approached in the first place?

Philippians 2:6b Jesus: who, being in very nature of God,did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
    by taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    by becoming obedient to death—
        even death on a cross!

Therefore God (exalted) him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.


a recovering Hell Fire & Brimstone preacher